Georgette is the creater of pedipower in Switzerland and a movement and foot-enthusiast. She loves to learn about feet and get them back into functional body parts. She was certified by a handful of specialists like Lee Saxby, Barefoot Academy, Dr- Emily Splichal and more.

In this english episode, Georgette wants to inspire through her journey of education and learning from different sources and combining them into her complete coaching system for movement and feet. We found each other because we are both certified functional foot map pracitioners and using the map in our work with clients.

 

In this episode you will discover:

– how Georgette startet her way to exploring feet, barefoot and more

– Where Georgette got her wisdom and experience

– which certifications and specialists she recommends for foot-interested people

– which tools she is using in her work

– why she goes out barefoot with her clients

– what her vision is for an „all-in-one“ – shoe shop in Switzerland

 

Ressources:

Pedipower, by Georgette:

https://pedipower.ch/

 

Dr. Emily Splichal:

https://www.dremilysplichal.com/

https://www.instagram.com/dremilydpm/

 

Barefoot-Academy:

https://www.barefoot-academy.com/

https://www.instagram.com/barefoot_academy/

 

MovNat:

https://www.instagram.com/movnat/

 

Lee Saxby:

https://www.leesaxby.com/

https://www.instagram.com/coachleesaxby/

 

Gait Happens Website:

https://www.gaithappens.com/

 

Naboso tool for sensory input on the sole:

https://www.instagram.com/naboso_technology/

 

28 1/2 Georgette Dutoit – Footsteps in the pedipower-life, how an injury lead to a shoe-shop vision

29 2/2 Georgette Dutoit – Footsteps in the pedipower-life, how an injury lead to a shoe-shop vision

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Georgette Dutoit:
It's fashion that is definitely driving the destruction of the foot in the modern man. Insurance companies are still having doctors prescribe orthotics as a solution with no exit plan. The toga is actually moving the toes and making a connection from the toes to the brain. It's a very thin line loga with little nubs on it or little points on it, and it stimulates the bottom of your foot so your foot can find the ground so your muscles and your legs can be activated through the stimulation. There is not a lot of information about stimulation that the bottom of the foot needs to feel. It has to feel feedback like your fingers would read Braille and normal modern humans at the bottom of their foot will not really receive any input, any stimulation, any sensory input.

Florian:
Hello, everybody. And we have your guest here, the second English podcast. I am really grateful Georgette is here and she wants to explain or tell us about her story. And she's also our second female podcast guest. And she is also interested, really, really interested in feet like me. She was also educated by Saxbe and she is quite active. And yeah, she wants to show us some inspiration, support feed about her story and she really wants to share this with you. So I hope this will give you some some new aspects in your life and enjoy this talk. Good day, Georgette. Hmm.

Georgette Dutoit:
Hi, Florian, and thanks for having me to your podcast. Very, very nice. And especially for doing this in English because my German is not so great.

Florian:
Can you can you speak a little bit German?

Georgette Dutoit:
Yeah, you can envision Deutsche Brechin habeck in Hamburg for Yaacov. Want a body for English leadon. And so having some nice inside English. Well done mine. But since mine Schweitzer man is English so and all the work I do here is in English so.

Florian:
Yeah but it sounds good. Yeah.

Georgette Dutoit:
Yeah I can manage a few sentences so. But yeah I'm originally from Los Angeles, Coastal Towns, Southern California, so I was really lucky to grow up in warm weather year round in the wintertime. It's an average 22 degrees gets a little hotter so and you can be barefoot all year round. And I lived right on the ocean side and a surf town. So it was quite common just to be barefoot all year round and not think twice about it.

Florian:
So like we have the second English podcast and with the first one was with Barefooted also from California. Yeah. Seems like this gets a feet from California podcast.

Georgette Dutoit:
Maybe doing the California feat. Yes. Well, because the weather is there and the atmosphere is there and the surfing is there and the relaxed attitude is there. And so it makes it really easy to be barefoot and not think that it's a strange thing. So when I grew up and where Barefoot Ted grew up, there was signs hanging in the shops of the windows and restaurants that said no shoes, no shirt, no service. And this was quite normal to grow up like this.

Florian:
And in German gyms, you are like, what? You are barefoot. This is too dangerous. Please.

Georgette Dutoit:
Yes, yes. Yes. So exactly. So, yeah, my journey took me to live in Germany for quite a long time. And then I was living in Manhattan, New York, and then I ended up in Switzerland. I met a Swiss guy when I was living in Manhattan and I was on my way back to Germany and I made a detour to Switzerland and married my Swiss guy and never looked back. So here I am now from Los Angeles to Switzerland via Hamburg and Manhattan. Yeah. And then in 2010, I had a sledding accident where my left foot was broken. It was twisted 180 degrees backwards. And they had to put it back, of course, straight. And the surgery didn't go very well for some reason, and the foot was not put back straight. It's about 15 degrees laterally, twisted at the ankle and it's now two centimeters shorter. So that was in 2010. Living in Switzerland was this. So that was quite a shock.

Florian:
Now you can you can go on. Just wanted to ask if this was the case, why you are interested in feet now.

Georgette Dutoit:
Exactly. Well, I was always interested in feet before this, and I was because I was always taking my shoes off and kind of getting a bit in trouble or looked at strangely in Europe that when I would have my shoes off, it was not a normal thing and I didn't think much about it. And when I started hiking in Switzerland, when I moved here in 2007, 2008, I was going barefoot. I got a lot of strange looks and I quickly understood it wasn't normal. And then I broke my foot and I was looking for someone to give me the type of therapy that I wanted to have. And I realized that there was nothing on offer. And during my recovery from my broken foot, I was. That's one of the best hospitals or orthopedic hospitals in Switzerland. They also work on, um, on the Olympic athletes and the surgery, the second reconstruction surgery was done well. And then I went to the physical therapists and I I was waiting for more things to happen with my feet during my recovery. And I realized there was nothing available. So I started researching and I realized that physical therapists don't learn specialties about the feet, the intricacies of the feet. And I realized that European podiatrists, they learn the biomechanics of the feet, but they are normally cleaning the feet and keeping them healthy from Piltz and dead skin. And then I had to look into podiatrists in America and I realize they are surgeons and they're mostly taught to cut into the feet and relocate the bones and do types of surgeries for rehabilitation, rehabilitating the feet. So I didn't know any of this until I was in the position to search for this type of help. And I also didn't realize that so many people had problems with their lower body or their backs because of their feet. I decided I was going to do something about it and I became a restorative foot therapist.

Florian:
There are so many like declarations and it's quite hard to explain it to some somebody who's asking. It's like, what are you doing? Like, I'm training for it or I'm preparing for a fight or I'm yeah, forced both feet and I'm interested in feet. And I don't know, it's quite difficult to explain it in the short, but yeah,

Georgette Dutoit:
It yes, it really is. It's really I think that's something that I am seriously interested in, is looking into creating standards or being a part of creating standards for foot therapy. So for example, what I am doing, the physical therapists don't learn in physical therapy school, the American podiatrist don't learn and the European podiatrists don't learn exactly what I'm doing. They have the knowledge, they have all the puzzle pieces, but they're not putting their puzzles together quite differently than I am. So, yes, you're absolutely right. There is a lotta scattered ness about this approach to recovering the feet, using actually fitness foot fitness. So if you want to restore your posture and your body and make yourself strong, for example, you could go to a physical therapist and you could go to a fitness trainer and they would help you reconstruct yourself, your muscles and your posture with exercise using your own muscles. But there's nothing exactly like that standardized for the feet. So yeah. So, yeah, I had to kind of I had to take classes in United States. I had to take classes in Germany. I had to take classes. In Switzerland, they had to take classes in Prague and Czech Republic to put together the education that I thought would be appropriate for what I was aiming for. And as you mentioned, you and I took the same foot mapping class with Coach Li Saxbe. Yeah, you took the same class

Florian:
Or took it in 2019 in Berlin. Now with with the Boston Ballet from Jolanda and DXP from Coach DSB was really, really eye opening, a real eye opener. So since then, I'm not like, you have to wear barefoot shoes, you have to go barefoot. It's like, well, let's take a look at your feet first and then decide what to recommend or what to train exactly and train the feet. Quite important part of my coaching now. And so so it was really, really good. I was totally new. So I'm not a physical therapist. Um, so I was just I'm like more trainer, like more exercise guy, but not the anatomy guy. So this was quite new for me. Everything. And I still have to learn some many parts of the anatomy background, but the training at all. Yeah, it works. Even if I don't know the exact like words like, uh, calcaneus or. Yeah. You know what I mean. And metatarsal. And these these words were really difficult for me from the beginning, but it's getting better and. Yeah, well, it was a really good experience.

Georgette Dutoit:
So yeah, I really enjoyed the class with Coach Saxbe and sponsored by the Sebastian Bar, the Bar and Joe Nimble Shoe Brands. They're also putting together the pieces education with with Coach Saxbe. And I was really looking for this. So the first thing I did was I understood that muscles had to be worked and I really liked group fitness and I wanted to have a foot fitness class in the fitness center so that I could pop in and wiggle my toes to and but there was nothing like that. So I went. The first thing I did was I got myself certified for a group fitness trainer, and then I created a little program. So I have 30 and fifteen minutes of Just Toga and I put that together a while ago just to get me started. And it got a little bit put aside on my journey. And then the next thing I did was I went and got a reflexologist certification and I learned reflexology because I'm really into the stimulation of the nerve endings to the bottom of the foot, which is where the nervous system ends or begins to put feedback into the body. And I'm really, really interested. I would say this is kind of my specialty point in my therapy focus. So that was the second thing I did was I went and got to first the group fitness and then the reflexology, and then I went to Barefoot Academy and Dusseldorp. And at the time I was yeah. At the time I was there.

Georgette Dutoit:
Yeah, they, they have a lot of good education there for runners and for people who want to transition to barefoot shoes and just fill their feet. And so I went to them and they were offering at the time barefoot therapist certification and they had a physical therapist there who used to be a soccer player and he put together a program just for the feet. And that was exactly what I was looking for. So I went and got certified by them. And then I wanted to have some natural movement in there. So I went to the movie that course and got certified by them to be a level one trainer. And then I went and got a fascist certification in Prague and I learned, yeah, it just goes on and on. So I was collecting my certifications here. And then for the, uh, I went to America and I learned with Dr. Courtney Connelly and she's with Gate Happens and she's like Gate seven. She's amazing to watch work. She's like a computer and probably one of the best, like, just doing it really out there. And I took a course from her and that was really. Exciting, and I also took a course from Dr. Emily Cyclical, and she's a podiatrist in the United States, and she didn't like what she had to do as a podiatrist, which was cut and put in luggers, prescribe enlargers and salt. And she's really into. Yes, and she's really into the McCannon receptor nerve ending feedback on the bottom of the sea.

Florian:
We had a small technical issue and you can explain deeper on this part.

Georgette Dutoit:
Oh, well, I want to talk about Dr. Emily Cyclical because she is doing something that that I I think is one point that's kind of missing in all this information that's coming out. So there's a lot of information about exercising feet and doing the right exercises for whatever your problem is and getting your toes to move and getting your arches to work and getting your big toe to push you off. But there is not a lot of information about stimulation that the bottom of the foot needs to feel. It has to feel feedback like your fingers would read Braille or just your fingers can touch things and understand what they are. And your feet really need to be able to do this. But they have no chance because they're either put in shoes or when they're barefoot, they're probably on hardwood floors or hard cement for most people. Now, there are people out there that will go barefoot in nature or walk around the city barefoot and they do get some sensation and that's good. But for the most part, a normal modern humans, the bottom of their foot will not really receive any input, any stimulation, any sensory input. And I'm Dr. Emily did a lot of research about that.

Georgette Dutoit:
And she invented her own product. It's called Nebojsa. And I just I love it. When she first started bringing it out, I found her and the product and I've been using it in my therapy approach for everyone. And what it does, it's a little it's a very thin line loga with little nubs on it or little points on it, and it stimulates the bottom of your foot so your foot can find the ground so your muscles in your legs can be activated through the stimulation. So it can go up to your through your whole body and it helps your posture, it helps your foot not hit the ground so hard. And I think I think everybody needs to have these. They're really great. So that's what she's she does. That's her specialty. And I was really excited to take a class from her. I went to Arizona and took a class with her and she talked a lot about loading the fascia. For me, it's like juicing up the fascia or revving the engine and revving like and kind of juicing up that trampoline on the bottom foot through also using these stimulation machines. Yeah, yeah.

Florian:
So quite interesting, really. I never, never heard about it, so I will definitely check this out. So it's like that's like giving stimulations inside the shoe, inside the chute while getting the protection of the shoe. And now.

Georgette Dutoit:
Yep. So the barefoot shoes, a lot of them, they have a very thin Einziger that you can pull out.

Florian:
We can go. We go going on again. Had a small issue but yeah. Take a breath and enjoy Georgette's journey.

Georgette Dutoit:
Yeah. So let's see. I think I was talking about Dr. Emily Silico and her sensory stimulation product that I really recommend in all of my therapy sessions. And I caught her in Arizona, actually. I chased her for a little while. I was see here in Prague at the last minute, she didn't show up. And then later we found out it's because she just found out she was pregnant and having a baby so she couldn't fly. And then I tried to catch her at another time and the schedule was rearranged. And so the third time was a charm. And I put her in Arizona and took her class and it was everything I wanted it to be. And yeah, I really like her work. And she's got a lot of great education online. She really, as you mentioned, about learning the vocabulary. She really uses the DR dialect. So you do have to you have to know your parts when you take her classes. So yeah, I did a lot of studying before I could catch up with her. And yeah, like I said, she, I think she's really working from an angle that I. He is not as prevalent as I as I would like it to see at the moment, because there's a lot of foot therapy that includes just plain exercise, but not always the stimulation that's needed. So I recommend actually to all my clients, but it's easy for me because I live in Switzerland and they're all here in Switzerland, is that they go in nature on uneven surfaces and different textures, for example, not just flat grass or not just sand, but they go on rocks or they find tree roots or they find little hills of mud they can climb with their bare feet. And I think this is a really great exercise. Plus, they get the stimulation, the sensory stimulation input into their feed, into their body, through their legs. So for me, this is super important, this type of natural exercise. And if you can't get it, then you wear the Nebojsa in soles in your shoes when you have to walk in the city, which is most of the time.

Florian:
I like how you are combining the movement concept with like feet training. And I saw this on Instagram and your stories and posts are quite. Yeah, I really love it how you're doing it. And I think also this is a quite important part of being human.

Georgette Dutoit:
Getting outside. Yeah. And I really saw through the just the movement, of course. And I was lucky they came to Zurich a few years ago. I actually I use a lot of the information I had to fly home recently because my father is very sick and he started falling. He's in his 80s and I could really use the information from move not to tell him to explain to him how if he falls, he can use his body weight or he can use the position of his legs or his hands underneath him to get enough force to move him, even as an elder person who doesn't have a lot of muscle mass and, you know, false is more easily than the rest of us. So and I thought the movement, of course, was really, really good for that. And just the basics of understanding what the body wants to do, but it's not allowed to do in the environment we've had. Yeah. So, yeah, I combined a lot of things that I thought would be useful to help people to say this is what I mean about not there is not a standard for restorative functional foot therapy. And like you said, everybody calls it something different and everyone has different approach and a different name. I call it sometimes fusion therapy, like fusion food. A little bit of this, a little bit of that, depending on what you mean. So, yeah, right now I'm doing fusion therapy and I'm just hoping that there's going to be some standards created in the future for this. I'm really interested in the Western world. Yeah. And Europe and the United States. There is a big difference between what a podiatrist, an educated podiatrist does in Europe as opposed to United States. They're both working with feet, but really two different fields to different educations, to different, you know, things that they're allowed to do.

Florian:
Yeah. So it's also, uh, confusion therapy.

Georgette Dutoit:
Yeah. Yeah, that's that's the that's the that seems to be the case right now. I think, you know, when you're when you take the coach's class, Coach Saxbe, he's really into the history of all of this. And that's one of his kind of delights, is telling you the history. And he has his slides and his pictures and the way he expresses how the history of all of this foot business has come and gone. And you can see when he talks about it, it has come around several times this approach to freeing the feed, letting the feet move, not locking them up in orthotics or crushing the toes in pointed shoes. This knowledge is there. It's fashion that's kind of not kind of it's fashion that is definitely driving the destruction of the foot in the modern man. And he talks about this. And it seems like this has come up a couple of generations ago and now it's coming up again. But the problem is there's no standards. They're still teaching the podiatrists. They're still teaching the physical therapists. They're still using reflexology for one specific thing. So they're they're still teaching them in the same way that they've been teaching for a while and not adding this information to the mix. And the insurance companies are still having doctors prescribe orthotics as a solution with no exit plan. But I really hope this is going to change because the standards will change and there will be some cohesiveness. And in the world of foot health. It will not be flat anymore. The world will not be flat any. Facebook will become.

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Georgette Dutoit:
It's fashion that is definitely driving the destruction of the foot in the modern man. Insurance companies are still having doctors prescribe orthotics as a solution with no exit plan. The toga is actually moving the toes and making a connection from the toes to the brain. It's a very thin line loga with little nubs on it or little points on it, and it stimulates the bottom of your foot so your foot can find the ground so your muscles and your legs can be activated through the stimulation. There is not a lot of information about stimulation at the bottom of the foot needs to feel it has to feel feedback like your fingers would read Braille and normal modern humans at the bottom of their foot will not really receive any input, any stimulation, any sensory input.

Florian:
It's also like sometimes I'm stumbling over some books that that that are calling themselves like healthy feet or strong feet or how to restore your feet. And even on the book cover, Darryl, like Alex goes on all these classical things. And I think, like, OK, this is too popular. And on the other hand, I am I know especially women, so many women that are saying like, oh, my feet are so ugly and don't I want to I don't want to show them. Don't look at them. And it's it's still so common. These like views about feet and not the understanding of function of feet and so important, as you mentioned in the beginning, that it's relevant for hips or shoulders or back pain and all these things and people don't realize. So it's quite sad. But, um, I'm I'm also, um. Yeah. Uh, I hope also that this will change slightly into a more effective way. And it was what I think it's interesting. You mentioned, uh, um, toga the toga. I don't know, uh, in English to pronounce with, um, toga. Um, do you maybe want to explain how do you, um, do this with your clients before you go on with the job? Sure.

Georgette Dutoit:
The toga is actually moving the toes and making a connection from the toes to the brain. Many people cannot move their toes, lift them, separate them, pull their victo and immediate medially to the medial, to the middle because their muscles have never been allowed to work. So it would be like if you put yourself you break your arm and you put yourself in a cast and never take the cast off, your arm won't work. So with the toga, you just learn how to make your toes work. You learn how to make the connections, you strengthen the muscles. So, for example, you would lift all your toes up and hold them there and try and stretch them back. You would try and spread your toes each far apart. So there's space in between all of your toes. You would try and, for example, lift all of your toes and only tap your big toe down or only tap your small toe down. And this is Toga. It's it's exercising the toes. They call it toga instead of yoga because you're stretching the toes and that's where the name comes from. It's yoga for the toes.

Florian:
Perfect.

Georgette Dutoit:
Yeah. Yeah.

Florian:
And it actually does not take that much time. It's like ten to fifteen minutes maximum a day and will really get to big results in a short period. Yes.

Georgette Dutoit:
Yes. The feet are like I always say, the feet are like dogs that are locked in the house. If you open the door that dog's going to run out of the house and be so happy. Right. So your feet are always locked in the shoes. And as soon as you take them out and start letting them work, they're going to be so happy. So, yes, like you said, it comes really quick. The feet want to work for you. They're dying to work for you. So as soon as you release them and you put them in shoes that will allow this, the muscles will come and your pain will start to subside and your body will feel better when the feet feel better. So, yeah, that's the benefits of letting. Toes move and the toga you can do while you brush your teeth, while you wash dishes, while you stand and talk on the phone. So it's super easy to get it in. You don't have to stop and do anything but lift your toes.

Florian:
The in the last episode I just talked to my German listeners to a squat while brushing their teeth and know you are coming and say like to toga while you are brushing your teeth, the teeth. And it's quite funny.

Georgette Dutoit:
So many things you can do when you brush your teeth, brush your teeth, you can brush your teeth like 10 times a day.

Florian:
So yeah. Yeah. Thank you for explaining, Toga. And you may want to continue your journey because I know there are some some quite special parts to where you are leading to, so I'm quite excited to hear about it.

Georgette Dutoit:
So let's see. Well, I started doing the foot therapy about two years ago and I popped around looking for trying to figure out what I needed as far as studio space and what what I wanted to make people aware of. And I just found a space. I say we because my husband is the other part of this journey. He is supporting all of this that I'm doing, all the education and all the shoe ordering and everything. And so we found a space about just a year ago. We moved in. And now I have everything I need to to do the therapy and to do the gate analysis and to show people how they can strengthen themselves and make themselves feel better. And what I would like to do. So some of the goals for the future are would to be would be to have a shoe shop, a retail shoe shop here where people can come in and look at all the different shapes and sizes of barefoot shoes and see the styles and pick shoes that are really healthy for them without having this fear of ordering online something they've never seen or they've never touched or they don't know what it's going to look like.

Georgette Dutoit:
So to take away kind of that that anxiety of ordering a product that they've never seen before or have any experience with. And so my big goal is to have a shoe shop where I would have everybody's brands and I would people would come in and we would be able to advise them on their shoe shape, on their foot shape, you know, because everybody's feet are not shaped the same. So all shoes do not work for every there's not one size fits all. So it's very important that you know what your foot shape is so you can put it into the correct shoe that would fit you and also give them some exercises. I would have in my mind, I would have the shoe shop in the front and the therapy studio would be in the back. And then I would be giving workshops from time to time. And yeah. So, yeah, this this is kind of this is the goal that I'm shooting for, is just to have a retail space where people can come in and see and touch and lose their anxiety and find the right shoe and get the right type of therapy. And yeah,

Florian:
The complete package.

Georgette Dutoit:
It's the complete package. Yeah.

Florian:
That's what's now it's quite inspiring goal. Now I saw this with different shoes on Instagram. I was really impressed and different shapes. And for the moment, like I'm, I have a daughter. She's like four years, three years and her feet are around 16 centimeters. It's a really, really pain to find some like the sandals, even sandals that not that are not too narrow for the toes. And it's it's it's an epic journey to find some sandals for her in the size.

Georgette Dutoit:
Yeah. It's really it's really difficult to find barefoot shoes. I think the reason the the foot health movement didn't take off in the past is because there was no barefoot shoes and now there's plenty enough around. There's plenty enough makers that make them. And to find the children's shoes, I mean, I'm sure you know already that the bones don't get solid in the foot until after puberty in a human. So whatever you put on your daughter's feet now, they're still soft in the bones are. Still getting hard in there, and that will shape them, shake the feet and make it better or worse as they grow, and then once the human animal reaches puberty, then the feet, four bones are ossified. They're everything in there is solid, everything there is set. And then you go forward from there, hopefully in the right position.

Florian:
Yeah, I can.

Georgette Dutoit:
Yeah. So, yeah, it is really hard to find these types of shoes. And the reason is because people want to have pointed shoes and shoes with heels. The shoes that look like a foot that are wide in the front for the human western eye is not esthetically pleasing. And therefore the producers of Barefoot Shoes have a really hard time to sell enough that they can have a shop. There's only a few brands that actually sell enough that they can really have a shop where people can go in and get their shoes. But I would say for 90 percent of the barefoot shoe producers, that's not the case. And yeah, it's really hard to buy something new and especially in different cultures. I know some cultures are definitely willing to try new things very quickly in other cultures are much more hesitant. So they need a little more help. Um, so, yeah, that's why that's what I think, that it would be really beneficial to have all the choices right in front of you know, I saw this when I was in Prague for the first time. I went into a shoe shop that had all different types of shoe brands and they were all barefoot shoes. And it was like it was like a dream. But I do have to say, the first time I went in there and saw all of these shoes with the wide fronts, I was very shocked. It was very shocking to see and my brain had to readjust. And, yeah,

Florian:
I can I can I can imagine

Georgette Dutoit:
Shoes look normal. Yes, exactly. So, um. So yeah. Those are the goals. Those are the those are the things I'm working on to celebrate. Yeah. To be. I think not many people in Europe know who Martha Stewart is.

Florian:
The name tells me something.

Georgette Dutoit:
So she's a kind of a celebrity homemaker in United States and she does everything that it could possibly done to be a homemaker. And if you're a homemaker, that is cooking and cleaning and gardening and sewing and everything, baking cakes and recipes. And she does everything that covers kind of making the home. And I made a joke one time and I said, hey, there's so much to be done with the feet, their shoes, there's exercises, there's parks, there's therapy, there's you know, there's stimulation. There's so many things you can do with the fee. And I said, I guess I need to be the Martha Stewart effet because there's so much one can do with this. There's so many ways you can you can add to this kind of therapy. So there's standards that need to be set for shoemaking, for barefoot trails, hiking and nature for standards for therapy, standards for education. I mean, there's just so much that needs to be done.

Florian:
It's quite, quite interesting that you that, you know, all these things like Barefoot Academy and, um, like the sex, but also, I mean, you know, things I was also I am interested to and now I'm facing completely new things like podiatrists from America or everything else you mentioned, like the insoles with the stimulation. And I don't know these things. So I would check them definitely out and we'll put them in the text of the of the talk. So it's quite interesting. I think this will help some. Yeah. Therapists and trainers out there who are listening, because I think mainly these people are listening because of feet and how so I think this will help. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. And the shop, you know, it's it's really I was also thinking like, oh, it would be a dream to have this shop like like this shop, like you mentioned, with mixed-use and brands and training. And I'm really excited where this will lead to what you are. Yeah.

Georgette Dutoit:
Building up. Yeah. Yeah. I'm really excited too. I want to have everybody's products there. I want to have the mobo. I want to have the blackboard one. So you know pads. I want to have the Little Eagles and I want to have the Xerox Rocksmith like the QWERTY. That's I mean, I use I really like I build the I build a stimulation parkour in my studio and I make my clients walk over that over all of these textured things. And I want to see I want to see the reaction in there and their face and their shoulders. And they're in their neck, in their back. And when I make them walk on these different textures, I can tell really that they need stimulation. Not only do they need Toga and the right shoes, but they also need the stimulation. And so this type of barefoot parkour is a stimulation, sensory input parkour that I really I have a lot of toys that I drag around from my workshops and my therapy. But those toys, even though they cause me like a lot of suitcases and packing, they're so important to getting the message of not only exercising, but stimulation. So that's why, you know, I'm willing to drag my toys around with me.

Florian:
Yeah, totally, totally understand. Well, you also educating trainer and therapists?

Georgette Dutoit:
No, I'm not. Yes, actually, yes, I am. I'm for the Swiss Academy of Fitness and Sports. They certify, if you want to, they certify people in Switzerland that want to become trainers or working group fitness like they do the less mills' certifications. If you want to work in a gym and do all of this, and I do there, I'm there barefoot training, Viter Building, Viter, buildOn person. So once a year they offer all these extra extra courses about nutrition and muscle building. And and I do their education and I also work for the asphalt said that's the sports virion for the universities. I'm actually a rowing instructor for them. I'm a I'm a rowing instructor, Meudon, so I work for them as a rowing instructor. And also now I do some of their workshops for the barefoot training and I teach mostly. I would say that my education is really geared for the consumer. It's not geared for the physical therapist or the trainer. The information is there. And then I would suggest, like getting a further education, you know, someone like I mentioned Dr. Cyclical or someone that fascher like whatever your your your specialty is or, you know, there's or if you're looking at someone

Florian:
You mentioned the on the even grounds or, um, these things you may want to to go a bit deeper in this or.

Georgette Dutoit:
Yeah, sure. So one thing that I really impress upon people that want to get their feet back in order is going barefoot on safe, natural earth. So that means going in the forest or going in nature wherever you can be, making sure that there is a safe kind of trash free groomed area where you're not stepping on anything that's really had a barefoot that they would feel more comfortable in their body as they're getting the sensation.

Florian:
Yeah. So thank you for the explanation this time. I missed to record, but

Georgette Dutoit:
We can save that for next time. How that we can do like the whole we can do another. You know, it's about, you know, beginning barefoot posture and the corrections in the tips and tricks.

Florian:
How's that? And like, oh, you mean short episode in the future

Georgette Dutoit:
We can do a short episode in the future.

Florian:
Yeah, we can do that. You know, um, OK, Georgette, we had some small issues, but I think the listeners already took so many inspirations. And for me, just to summarize all these things you mentioned, I um. Yeah. Like I imagine you are doing in your coaching, like stimulation exercises, going outside barefoot in a safe area and recommending barefoot or functional shoes, depending on the food shape and all these small things like Toga and adding it to completely like fit fitness program. And it's quite interesting. So if anybody outside and listening wants to find you or maybe you get some inspiration or like take part in your courses in Switzerland, how can they find you? And you may tell us some some final words.

Georgette Dutoit:
Well, I'm not hiding. I'm here for everybody. You can find me through the website. That's Petti Power, Dot S.H., Paddy Power, Sehar, and I'm also on. Instagram at Petti Power and yeah, you can find me this way, and if you're having problems with your feet and you're not satisfied with the answers you've been getting and you're still in orthotics, I'm happy to help you understand what you can do. And I'm happy to help put together a program for you and your specific problems and try and make your feet feel better so your body feels better on top of it.

Florian:
Great words. So I hope you enjoyed this and learned something about feet. And maybe the next English podcast won't be about feet. So some different topics. OK, Georgette, thank you for being here and tell us your story. Paddy Power and I also will link to the small or not the small to the quite good PDF. You created the pity workbook and I think this will help to thank you. Great.

Georgette Dutoit:
And thanks for having me. It was really nice to be on your podcast. Yes. Yes.

Florian:
Ok then. I'll see you soon. Here you soon. See if I

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